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  1. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Merlin said:
    Vote: Harry Dresden

    Anyone want to compare answers on the riddle?
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    Can't discuss answers
  2. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    I don't see how that is an insult to town when I am talking about a scenario where town can't win anymore. I am not opposed to eliminating the SK if it's possible to eliminate him and win. But if after those poison shenanigans we wake up tomorrow with 5 or 6 people alive with two mafia and an SK left, or with 4 people alive with a mafia and an SK left, that's when I'll choose to give it to the SK. If mafia wants to prevent it, they can kill the SK themselves and convince me vote a townie over them to win. Town has already used up an action to pop Cody's vest so I think this is pretty fair.
  3. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Harry Dresden said:
    I’ve told you why.
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    And yet I still don't understand.

    Harry Dresden said:
    That’s some BS right there.
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    Why is that BS?
  4. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Harry Dresden said:
    I’m telling you…wrong move here.

    What do you mean kingmaker?
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    I still don't see why

    If there's a situation where town can't win and has to choose who to give the win to, I'm saying I'll give it to Cody Rhodes
  5. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Think Dresden should go

    If there's a kingmaker I'm not voting Cody Rhodes

    Don't die to an SK guys because it seems like our roleblocker is dead
  6. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    I think I got it but I'm waiting for confirmation
  7. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Inb4 no one dies to poison
  8. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Sirius Black said:
    I just checked and I don't believe you softed anything yesterday? Which I think would be a good idea for you to do if I'm right about what I think you are representing
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    Or maybe I'm wrong because how would you even know

    Not sure what to think of your statement atm
  9. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    I just checked and I don't believe you softed anything yesterday? Which I think would be a good idea for you to do if I'm right about what I think you are representing
  10. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Argh. You know my soft spot well Harry, I'll give you that :D
  11. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    VoidKitten said:
    Jade Cargill has been given an anti-serum and has been cured of poison.
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    Of course he has been.
  12. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Harry Potter said:
    While I understand this line of thinking, part of me doesnt feel that VK would end the game this way. We've seen Violina act in some odd ways, so no telling if this would end the game or cause her to do something else.
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    Might also hammer Dresden for a potential immediate victory if the 4 of us are town, and to stil have another chance the next day if no more than 1 of us is not town.
  13. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Vote: Harry Dresden

    I actually think that Mankind has been townier than Dresden. A looot of Dresden's content revolves around them discussing the writeups and what not which is an easy way for mafia to generate content. They wanted to vote Cody Rhodes yesterday and didn't really engage with the suspicion on Rhea at all. They voted Glinda very late as the seventh vote when Glinda was already ahead by one vote, and they didn't even engage with the case of Glinda being outed due to night actions - which is weird for such a write-up oriented player.

    My previous vote for Mankind was just to tie the wagons and to obscure my position. To what end? I don't know. But I was wondering if the anti-dotes were distributed via some process happening in the Tribal Council and I thought that misrepresenting my views for a bit might potentially cause someone to do something they might not have done otherwise. I don't know if it ever materialised in something but at this point enough time has passed that I feel compelled to come clean about this.

    Inb4 no one cares and Mankind is yeeted over Harry anyway. Or Mankind is mafia and I'm guessing wrong yet again.

    Still not entirely opposed to the idea of hammering Mankind for a me/Harry Potter/Merlin victory although Merlin being confused about why he had Harry as not Kitten Kaboodle does make me want to pause and actually evaluate Harry's alignment because those deets was the reason I had him as town.
  14. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Merlin said:
    I have not visited Harry Potter. I am trying to figure out what happened here. If I typed the wrong name or got confused or what.
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    Bruh
  15. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Unvote:
  16. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Merlin said:
    Looking back I did say that. Now I am sorting through my notes to see why I said that.
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    Lmao what

    I took it as you had info on them
  17. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Merlin said:
    How convinced are you that Harry Potter is town?
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    Aren't you the one who said they can't be Kitten Kaboodle?
  18. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Merlin said:
    A quick hammer leaves less time for anti serum...
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    Unless I'm mistaken, the only un-poisoned people currently are myself, Harry Potter and Mankind. So assuming we are both town, quick hammering Mankind before anyone else becomes un-poisoned would win the game for town.
  19. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Quick hammer Mankind for a Sirius Black + Harry Potter family victory!
  20. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Mankind said:
    Overall, I like his posts and in general think he seems good, but there's nothing strong to tell me he is town. If it weren't for this event, I wouldn't want to lynch him today, but I could not say for sure that that I was convinced that he wasn't mafia or Rajah.
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    Who would you want to Lynch today if you had the choice?
  21. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Harry Dresden said:
    I’m willing to do that. Not willing to self vote.
    Unvote:
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    What would be your read on Mankind if it wasn't for the duel situation?

    Who do you think the mafia are?

    @Harry Dresden
  22. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Mankind said:
    Obligatory wtf about the double day kill here. It removes Dude Love and Mick Foley, neither of which were my preferred choices for lynching.

    The serial killer, if they work as assumed, is only going to get scarier as the game gets fewer and fewer players. There are now fewer people for anybody to choose from, and obvious targets for both protections and kills. SK targets one of the obvious people and you could see 2 or three kills from them alone.

    Rhea is still my top mafia pick. I don't think they're the serial killer.

    Serial killers are always a challenge, though. Being alone, it's a lot easier to act town. However, being too scary for wolves makes them an obvious night kill target, so there is a definite motivation to stay more on the quiet side.

    Sirius was the one to suggest how the SK works in relation to Glinda's death, which was used as justification for Glinda's lynch. I did say at the time it's possible he was the SK leaking info on his role to scum hunt and appear town, but he is really active and confrontational, putting targets on himself left and right for both lynch and NK. I am leaning to him not being the SK.

    The obvious place to look is in the less active users. Cody Rhodes definitely fits the bill. He was my 2nd favourite choice for lynch earlier.

    Paranoia in me has me wonder if Harry Dresden is Rajah. Not very active, but kind of active as they come in with a townie seeming post here and there, but not so much as to really draw the attention of the scum team. It feels kind of like they're hitting the perfect desired balance for a serial killer. I don't think we should lynch them at this point, but I do think it should be in peoples' minds going forward.

    I suppose ultimately we have to decide who we need to kill more. Is it the mafia, or the serial killer? I think the mafia has had 3 confirmed deaths, one of which was a traitor. I assume they have at least 2 members left.

    I think the way to go is to slim down the mafia further for today and then hunt for the SK tomorrow. They're closer to winning than a SK is, and alive they can hit the mafia too if we're lucky. If we try for the SK and hit a townie, then mafia could capitalize on that. I'm not strongly opposed to trying to kill the SK, but I think mafia is a better target right now.

    Vote: Rhea Ripley
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    Mankind voted Ripley but said they weren't opposed to killing SK either

    I guess I could talk myself into reading it as Mankind trying to hedge their bets
  23. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Harry Dresden said:
    IMO, we gain a greater advantage of taking out the SK if his kill ability works the way it has been theorized (by killing those that visit the person he watches). He took out two in one night. We just got lucky that they were scum and not town. On the flip side, I can’t recall any evidence that scum can take out more than one person per night.
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    So Harry was definitely gunning for SK yesterday
  24. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    I'm trying to decide if it's only one of them, neither of them or both of them
  25. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    The fact that there was no counter train to Rhea whatsoever makes me think that they might have been bussed

    Or did the wolves actually just threw in the towel and agree to sell out the SK yesterday? There were some people who said they were leaning to vote SK before I abruptly changed my mind on Rhea. No honor among thieves if that is true smh.
  26. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Final Day 3 Vote Count:

    Glinda - 7 (Sirius Black #1128, Cody Rhodes #1140, Jafar #1151, Seth Rollins #1207, Mankind #1222, Dude Love #1246, Harry Dresden #1248)
    Dr Strange - 5 (Gargamel #1064, Rhea Ripley #1154, Glinda #1215, Pug #1225, Mick Foley #1232)
    Pug - 2 (Jade Cargill #867, Merlin #988)

    Not Voting: Cactus Jack, Dr Strange, Harry Potter
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    So unless the team is exactly Cactus Jack/Harry Potter, someone was bussing on D3.

    Imagine if it is both of them
  27. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Vote: Mankind
  28. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Mankind said:
    We could have a pact between Harry and I. We both abstain from voting today, leaving it to everybody else.
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    Harry Dresden said:
    I’m willing to do that. Not willing to self vote.
    Unvote:
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    Respect to both of you!
  29. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Well, you could also both self vote in a show of trust to each other.
  30. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Mankind said:
    Cody's been silenced. Not a big loss with his contributions thus far, I don't think. Somebody tried to kill Cody, wouldn't have been a big loss if it had succeeded. Cody is pretty much irrelevant this game day.
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    He may have been blocked by Dr Strange as well, seeing as Rajah wasn't active last night. Or do we think that Rajah only acts on evens?
  31. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    If Violina is willing, both will die to poison.
  32. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    It's alright nephew. I'm not taking myself seriously anymore either.
  33. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Harry Potter said:
    Dresden has had a lot of good posts from what I recall.

    Mankind has push Rhea pretty consistent for at least 2 phases.

    Going to get into their ISOs and see if anything stands out.
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    Ha, look at this loser villager having to solve by reading ISOs and shit.
  34. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Nice, I knew I could always count on ya.
  35. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Give anti serum to your fellow wolf please
  36. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Perhaps sending so many wolves to the Tribal Council wasn't such a great idea.
  37. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    What the fuck
  38. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Vote: Rhea Ripley

    It's just that right now, I trust Doctor Strange more than anyone and he's voting here.
  39. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Jade Cargill said:
    Why are you deserting your team
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    Just what this game does to me
  40. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Vote: Sirius Black

    Reminder that I am mafia, have always been mafia, and will always be mafia this game.
  41. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Dr Strange said:
    I just read through all the vote posts when i was spreadsheeting. One thing I noted was that a lot of actions don't have named targets. Take a look through, and maybe you'll have a similar conclusion.
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    Alright, I think I understand what you're saying now.
  42. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Oh I wasn't criticizing the shot

    I was just appalled at the audacity of Mick Foley flipping town there
  43. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Dr Strange said:
    I have Rhea ruled out of a lot of town roles, and they could be almost any of the scum roles. And I've got some gameplay things I see.
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    How so, I wonder? I just went through every night post and I didn't see them get targeted by a town action once (nor a scum action, for that matter).
  44. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Imagine if Cody Rhodes is town

    Wouldn't that be something
  45. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Dr Strange said:
    Dude is listed as the House. Does anyone think that he could be multiple house of mtr names? Tildey is unaccounted for, but Future was identified.


    I actually started a spreadsheet today
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    That was my interpretation.
  46. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Dr Strange said:
    In your own post, you say there are things that don't look good, but simultaneously dismiss them as silly.

    And you could pretty much read your own reasons as could be from another perspective as well.
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    No, but that is my point. Rhea has said a bunch things that could really be read both ways. So why are we killing them instead of a scummier person?
  47. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Cactus Jack said:
    Do you have previous reasons to scumread any of Seth, Harry, Mankind, and me?
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    Their perspective was matching my own tbh. I also had no reasons to suspect you on prior days but now I think there is gotta be at least one mafia there.
  48. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    I see what you mean about my SK comment now. I guess it was a silly thing to say
  49. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Cactus Jack said:
    "Fellow town," you say?
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    I can confirm that that is what they said.
  50. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Killing SK in between mafia flips allows SK to make more kills than if we kill SK first without reducing the mafia kills.

    If people think that mafia is a greater threat, I don't see why they wouldn't just want to go all the way.
  51. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Cactus Jack said:
    Ok, but at any point that we kill the SK, their kill power is fully reduced. By that argument technically taking out the SK first is the more optimal option.

    I'm not saying we SHOULD kill the SK first, but I don't see how this argument says we shouldn't kill the SK in between mafia flips?
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    Because that would lead to more people dying to evil KP than if we were to focus one of the factions first.
  52. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Cactus Jack said:
    Wait, why does this matter? I think mafia takes greater priority, but it shouldn't matter whether we kill SK in between.
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    It matters because when we eliminate an evil faction, we reduce evil kill power. It would be more efficient to fully eliminate one faction before going after the other.
  53. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Dr Strange said:
    If Rhea is a scum, I would imagine .....the things that I am not going to specifically spell out. And beyond just listing out people, we should be holding people accountable for their logic.
    I just feel like you read two posts and closed down to the possibility after you were certain on Mick. I'd listed off multiple reasons why I might be wrong about Rhea, but you had me as "less towny" because Rhea gave a list. Obviously, you've course-corrected, but I have a small list of people who I think we can get good engagement on a solve with, and I think that this is not a "give them a pass" situation.

    Which is why I generally don't get moved by the just lists or "i like this person". Not saying there's no value, but the engagement is where people are going to slip.
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    I'm typing this pretty fast so I'm sorry if I come off as abrasive

    But I feel like most of the reasons to think that Rhea is scum are pretty silly/plausibly explainable to be coming from a town POV

    There is their vote on D3 over either of the wagoned wolves. But I maintain that it is very plausible that the wolves weren't actually trying to save Glinda with the exception of the two already outed wolves. There are three wolves still alive. There is only one unflipped person on your wagon. So clearly the wolves weren't all trying to save Glinda there. It's possible that Rhea voted you before I pointed out that Glinda was outed but, uh, I'd say that they had a pretty good reason for it considering that you killed them prior to that.

    So it's just a bunch of reasons that aren't exactly a great look for Rhea but could also be a townie who just said a couple of ill worded sentences and voted the wrong person once and I'm sitting here all confused wondering if that is really the best that we as a collective can do today.

    The reasons that make me think that Rhea might be town are:

    1) I like this person
    2) They started the day alluding to having some town role and speculated about what Merlin's role could be based on their own role. They obviously provided no evidence for it but in my experience those kinds of posts are very often just townies being truthful about their role. If your experience is different, then that is a fair rebuttal.
    3)They are being voted by people who I either don't entirely trust, or outright suspect. Now that point is especially important to me right now because with how close to reaching parity with the town the wolves are I don't see why they wouldn't just stack on a villager today to seal the deal. This wagon on Rhea with the only other alternative being the SK candidate makes me very worried that town is sleepwalking into a loss.
  54. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Dr Strange said:
    I would invite everyone to read the underlined portions and answer whether they think voidkitten was able to act twice in one night or whether the monitors portion is a pre-night action or flavor.

    eric cartman chef GIF by South Park
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    It might just be VK larping and totally unrelated to scum actions
  55. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Dr Strange said:
    If Rhea is a scum, I would imagine .....the things that I am not going to specifically spell out. And beyond just listing out people, we should be holding people accountable for their logic.
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    Why won't you spell it out? I insist. Who are Rhea's partners and what are they doing today?
  56. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Not quite. Not saying this makes Rhea more town. Just saying that I think this naive reason to think they are scum.

    Who do you think Rhea's partners are and what are they doing today? There should be two other mafia according to the writeup.
  57. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Do you think mafia are just bussing Ripley in this scenario?
  58. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    I just read the N4 write-up and came to the realisation that there are indeed 3 mafia alive.
  59. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Dr Strange said:
    You did read where they basically offered Cody to join them right?

    Think about the Cody dialogue.
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    Would they be simultaneously calling their posts "rotten and not towny" if they were trying to parley though?

    Idk, I've made this read of "this looks like evil parties talking to each other" many times in the past and in absolutely every case it turned out to be incorrect so I'm not buying it here.
  60. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Jade Cargill said:
    Why would I answer that to someone who claims to be scum?
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    No reason, I suppose.

    But if other people give a better answer, you may be in trouble :D
  61. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    @Harry Dresden
    @Rhea Ripley
    @Jade Cargill
    @Seth Rollins
    @Cody Rhodes

    Same question to everyone really. Who do you think are the mafia here? Give me at least two names.
  62. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Rhea, who do you think is mafia other than Jade?
  63. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Mankind said:
    I think the way to go is to slim down the mafia further for today and then hunt for the SK tomorrow. They're closer to winning than a SK is, and alive they can hit the mafia too if we're lucky. If we try for the SK and hit a townie, then mafia could capitalize on that. I'm not strongly opposed to trying to kill the SK, but I think mafia is a better target right now.

    Vote: Rhea Ripley
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    Going mafia>SK>Mafia is the absolute worst way to go about it. We need to either kill all mafia back to back or kill the SK first.
  64. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Rhea Ripley said:
    Sirius Black - the fact that you are voting so many different people makes me think you will get something if you meet a certain number of different votes/posts. Or do you have a hidden vote mechanic that only the first, or second or x'th etc. vote you place will be counted? Any other vote you place may show up in the temp talley to give you cover, so if the votes don't match who goes, let's remember this.

    Cody, I am not necessarily opposed to joining you on voting Sirius, because I am baffled. But I believe you may be the SK, as others have suggested, and I think your post with no explanation other than "works for me" really smells rotten and not towny. I didn't see a silence restriction on you, but even if there were, you technically posted more than just a vote.

    I also don't trust Jade, because of her terrible vote history, and the fact that she's pushing me.

    All in all, I have to go with what I think is best for town.

    Vote: Cody Rhodes

    I think I have narrowed down the obvious in that Merlin is also a part-time cop, and that CWE is a poison doc. I am struggling with who may have other roles other than my own of course.
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    Oh, would you prefer I just park on you like everyone else? At least I'm considering the alternatives.
  65. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    I don't disagree with wanting to go after mafia

    But I also don't know who the mafia are. I have enough doubt about Rhea being mafia to not want to kill them today. If we kill a town get very close to losing. Whereas if we hit an SK we can still catch someone with night actions and prevent further town deaths in the night. Hitting mafia won't even stop more town deaths because there should be at least two left.

    I don't have any solid picks for mafia here because I can see at least some reasons for most people to be town. Cody Rhodes is the only person to me that doesn't have anything redeeming about them whatsoever so that's why I'm voting them currently.
  66. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Vote: Cody Rhodes

    But you still should kill the SK ahead of me to limit the immediate kill power
  67. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Vote: Sirius Black

    Alright, I confess. I am mafia. It was me all along.

    Dude Love killing themselves and Mick Foley just makes everything so easy that I got bored. Plus I didn't intend to live that long anyway.

    I would be shocked if you find my partners after this but I wanted to at least give you guys a chance to make it interesting.
  68. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Why couldn't Mick Foley just flip mafia

    So annoying
  69. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Wait, did we ever get Gargamel's flip?
  70. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Ooh so we are getting Gargamel back

    I was hoping they would bring Jafar but that's good news
  71. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Or we just shake hands and kill the SK today

    Vote: Cody Rhodes

    So that our cops can catch wolves knowing that they will be safe to act

    All 3 wolves we got were caught with mech so no reason to steer away from that approach methinks
  72. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Vote: Harry Dressen

    When the game doesn't make sense, vote our your town reads
  73. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Unvote:

    I just don't know anymore
  74. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Jade Cargill said:
    Why? The writeup suggests he couldn't have done anything last night.
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    Jade Cargill said:
    EBWOP I misread, I saw his throat got chopped and thought he was incapacitated, didn't see the part only mentioning he couldn't speak, though it seems odd you want to vote a man who can't speak for himself today.
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    Did Jade derp not knowing that Paul Heyman died on N1
  75. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Sirius Black said:
    Town pile:

    Strange
    Merlin
    Rhea
    Harry Dresden
    Harry Potter

    The rest:
    Jade Cargill
    Cody Rhodes
    Seth Rollins
    Cactus Jack
    Mankind

    Mankind's posts today made me feel good things about him but I'd need to look at them again to make sure
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    Dr Strange said:
    I still think having Rhea that high is fucking way overconfident. Particularly when we've at least got some argument for some of the others.
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    Alright then

    Top:
    Strange
    Merlin
    Harry Dresden
    Harry Potter

    Middle:
    Rhea
    Cactus Jack
    Mankind
    Seth Rollins

    Bottom:
    Jade Cargill
    Cody Rhodes
  76. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Harry Dresden said:
    I read the CWE character ad town because it was in green. Do you think it’s a hidden traitor role? Or that it does something different?
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    It's a tinfoily thought, but it could be that it does absolutely nothing except appear in the writeup to make Cactus Jack look like he was saved from the poison.
  77. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Harry Dresden said:
    I feel confident in reading them as separate because we got confirmation in the flip that Sabrina was Mazer and that they had been recruited to scum. If she was also Rajah then it would have been in the flip and we wouldn’t have seen that role show up again.
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    Oh, riiight. I completely forgot that Mazer was Sabrina's role.

    That makes me think that Psycho used one of their actions last night.
  78. Sirius Black

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    Harry Dresden said:
    Or it could be that somebody is playing CWE and a second town character but has only used their CWE action that one time. We’ve seen a couple other town roles flip that had multiple characters.
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    This could be the case. If we get confirmation that CWE is indeed a town role then it would lend credibility to the theory of Cactus Jack being poisoned for real.
  79. Sirius Black

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    K I finished Mankind's ISO

    I think their posts are good. Are they town? I don't know. I think that if they were mafia and wanted to put in some effort, they could probably post like this. But there have been a couple of moments that I found to be tonally towny like the one I quoted above.

    So my conclusion is that I'm probably not gonna look at them unless there is 1 mafia alive and then make a final decision on their slot when there is more information.
  80. Sirius Black

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    Mankind said:
    Looking back, I do see a couple posts on this page even from Strange. Well, it left no impact on me on first read through.
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    This post feels towny from them in D1
  81. Sirius Black

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    Town pile:

    Strange
    Merlin
    Rhea
    Harry Dresden
    Harry Potter

    The rest:
    Jade Cargill
    Cody Rhodes
    Seth Rollins
    Cactus Jack
    Mankind

    Mankind's posts today made me feel good things about him but I'd need to look at them again to make sure
  82. Sirius Black

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    Yeah I've been wondering if Rajah and Mazer are two separate roles

    But Rajah is definitely an SK
  83. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    So that makes me want to fight for my Rhea Ripley town read all the harder lol
  84. Sirius Black

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    I thought I had a decent reason to townread Seth Rollins but upon revisiting the ISO I haven't felt as strongly about jt
  85. Sirius Black

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    I don't actually see a reason for Cactus Jack to be town. They dropped off big time after D1, and while their D1 was better than most people's it's not exactly clearing after the flips.
  86. Sirius Black

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    Sirius Black said:
    Actually I just went over the writeups. Cactus Jack was saved by CWE. But we haven't seen CWE act on any other night. It could well be a red herring.
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    And we haven't seen anyone else get poisoned.
  87. Sirius Black

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    Dr Strange said:
    Basically if Cody is CWE, which a few have thought, then their statement that he would not flip yellow would mean it was true.

    But as I type this out, I'm re-evaluating that now too.
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    I thoughy that the statement was they would not flip mafia?

    The way this could still be true is if they meant they wouldn't flip because the flips were hidden.
  88. Sirius Black

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    VoidKitten said:
    CWE had been biding his time, playing with mixing different types of alcohols and herbs together. During the day's meeting, he passed one of his tonics to Cactus Jack to hopefully help him ward off anything bad.
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    Actually I just went over the writeups. Cactus Jack was saved by CWE. But we haven't seen CWE act on any other night. It could well be a red herring.
  89. Sirius Black

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    Vote: Jade Cargill

    If we think that Cody can only be SK then doesn't make sense to go after him I think. He can't hurt us as long as we just stay home.
  90. Sirius Black

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    It makes me a little uncomfortable knowing that I've been shielding a person who has made a total of ONE post today but here we are lmao
  91. Sirius Black

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    And I don't really think I can tell yellow and green apart based on someone's posts.
  92. Sirius Black

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    Dr Strange said:
    it's possible. I'm not sure. Dude came along and saved the day for me. he was town. Harry, I have as a town lean.

    I'm just willing to assume it, as I saw nobody pressing anybody who voted me that day. I was pretty much a free vote. I think we should also look at the people who did not vote.
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    I definitely think that people coming in late to save you is a good look. I'm just saying that Rhea voting you may not necessarily be as bad as it may look because the wolves might not want to expose themselves by voting a counterwagon to the outed wolf. The only wolves we've seen do that were outed themselves and thus had nothing to lose.
  93. Sirius Black

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    Dr Strange said:
    Remind me of what you were thinking with Cactus Jack as well.
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    I had them not mafia due to them being poisoned by one of the red roles yesterday.

    Though now that I think of it, it is possible for them to be yellow.
  94. Sirius Black

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    I don't see any reason to not flip Cody and Jade here
  95. Sirius Black

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    Dr Strange said:
    11 Mick
    12 Dude


    I updated the votes with the additional info
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    Mick flipping green makes me think that the wolves just didn't try saving either of their outed teammates. We've seen two wolves vote you but both were outed.
  96. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    Vote: Cody Rhodes

    I'm just gonna stop saying words and park here for now
  97. Sirius Black

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    Oh my god.
  98. Sirius Black

    Mafia 15 - VoidKitten's Revenge

    SK doesn't control who they kill

    They killed two wolves on N2 because they visited Tribal Chief
  99. Sirius Black

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    Mick Foley said:
    you think strange came in and just wanted to help murder a partner a bit more?
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    I neither think that nor not think that

    It is an unimportant detail.
  100. Sirius Black

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    Mick Foley said:
    because you can see the difference in strange coming back to the thread and rhea coming back to the thread and you literally admitted further up rhea was mafia when you said i shouldnt pressure people by calling them her partner lmao
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    What was the difference in Strange coming back and Rhea coming back? They both proceeded to tunnel each other afaik.

    I'd even go as far as saying that Rhea's posts look townier than Dr Strange today because they actually dropped the tunnel and discussed other people, whereas Dr Strange not as much.
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